Glazov Gang Standoff: Saba Ahmed vs. Shireen Qudosi on “Does Islam Need Reform?”

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This special edition of The Glazov Gang was joined by Saba Ahmed, the president of the Republican Muslim Coalition, and Shireen Qudosi, the Director of Muslim Matters at America Matters

The two guests went toe-to-toe on Does Islam Need Reform? and the heated exchange touched on the Hijab, political Islam, the figure of Mohammed, what a real Muslim is, and much, much more.

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2 thoughts on “Glazov Gang Standoff: Saba Ahmed vs. Shireen Qudosi on “Does Islam Need Reform?””

  1. Islam does not need reforming. it needs to be thrown out into the dustbin of history. I don”t see how any self respecting person with any intelligence can submit himself to such a barbaric faith.
    Come on Muslims have the courage grow a pair and get out
    fast and join the rest of the civilized world.
    On another subject Islamophobia is a hoax. it is Islam -Aware and we cannot be fooled.

  2. This was an enlightening discussion, albeit probably not in the way the Muslim guests intended it to be.

    Shireen Qudosi strikes me as a strong passionate woman with a fine independent spirit, although it would helpful to her listeners if she could slow down her delivery at times.

    Now if she could couple that independent spirit with an independent mind, she would have impressive credentials. Sadly, I find her a bit deceptive, possibly engaged in self-deception, or possibly just good old taqqiya. She claimed, “historically, Islam has always expanded under political campaigns.” Sorry, Shireen, but historically Islam has expanded the ummah by military force- I would like to hear you admit that, and until you do, I question your integrity. Oh, and by the way, should you ever try to leave this murderous cult known as Islam, well the “Prophet” (what did he prophesize?) instructs that you should be killed.

    Shireen also seems to me to place herself in a theologically (and possibly personally) dangerous position by denying that that a hijab (or some similar covering) is required in Islam. Ok, she might have a reasonable argument that theological understandings were never Liatris’ long strong suit. Nevertheless, Koran 24:31 says,

    to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons, … their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women.

    This is not advisory, this is obligatory, by no less than the world’s most enduring fraud: the Koran.

    World’s most enduring fraud? Well, yes, Shireen, I hope you come to the independence of mind to realize that the Koran was not revealed to Mohammad by an archangel: it was a human fabrication, probably concocted over more than a century, before being compiled into a canonical version. Mohammad, if indeed the little murderous pedophile ever existed, was a con artist extraordinaire who reveled in murderous thievery and subjugation. He killed people- or had them killed- for the crime of mocking him. What a P-O-S he was! [but he’s the role model for all good Moslems- phooey be upon him].

    The Koran as the word of God? Are you even aware that portions of the Koran were probably not originally written in Arabic (check out Christoph Luxenberg, who has identified about 400 Aramaic words in the Koran that appear to have no Arabic pedigree). So Allah decided to speak to Mo in Arabic sometimes, but to sprinkle his speech with Aramaic and Syriac terms just to confuse the hapless illiterate? Gimme a break- the Koran is simply a human construct cribbed from hither and yon, including a generous contribution from a psychopath who was big on power trips.

    I realize, Shireen, that I am harsh in my indictment of this work you consider in some way sacred, even if it is a book committed to subjugation of those who do not share your religious beliefs. But your spirit is commendably independent, and I wish very much that your mind could follow so that you would not be in any way among the oppressors of the estimable Anni Cyrus, producer of the show on which you courageously appeared. I would like to see you avail yourself of the blessings of liberty to stand apart from those who would murder those Christians- and even Moslems- in Pakistan (and elsewhere) who commit “blasphemy”. I think you know very well that your independent spirit would be crushed in any number of Moslem societies.

    Finally, you mentioned (sorry, I failed to get your exact words) how you regarded the Koran as a means of direct communication with the Divine. There is a Christian sect that might interest you: Quakers. This tiny group, with strong pacifist leanings and which has been in existence a mere 400 years, holds dear the notion that God can speak individually to people today. You might care to check them out.

    I wish you well in this world. I am confident there are spiritual homes better suited to you than the murderous House of Islam, and I can only hope you find one.

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